SL's top ranked Test Batters @ No1 to 5 spots must be assigned to plug Holes & bring Wins!

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It is worthwhile looking at SL's top ranked Test batters, according to their batting averages during past 18 months, since August 01, 2016 to date (batted at vital No 1-5 spots, where it matters most to the outcome of a Test):

1) LD Chandimal - 19 ing/ 933 @ 54.88 Av/ 45 SR- 3 x 100 / 5 x 50+

2) DKarunaratne - 38 ing/ 1400 @ 38.75 Av/ 46 SR- 4 x 100/ 6 x 50+

3) WU Tharanga -  16 ing / 549 @ 36.60 Av / 56 SR- 2 x 100/ 3 x 50+

4) BKG Mendis-     32 ing/ 1102 @ 34.43 Av /60 SR – 3 x 100 / 3 x 50+

5) DM de Silva -       7 ing / 189 @ 31.50 AV/ 48 SR- 1 x 100*

6) AD Mathews -     23 ing / 677 @ 29.43 AV / 50 SR- 1 x 100/ 4 x 50+

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/....

To have the strongest possible solid batting unit for Tests, Upul Tharanga should be included to OPEN with Dimuth K.  Since Upul was relieved from captaincy responsibilities in ODIs, now he is free to take part in Tests.

Opening position is vital to the side & the newcomer Sadeera Samarawickrema is certainly nowhere near international level, as so much hyped on substandard domestic scene highs.

- Sadeera managed just 125 runs @ 15.62 Average from his 8 consecutive test innings on perfect batting decks, including 2 ducks in his 3 single digit scores. He had gathered 2 consecutive ducks in his 2 Odis as well, causing SL to doom.

- Opener Kaushal Silva is a total failure as well. He managed just 465 runs @ 23 Av from 20 Test innings played during past 18 months.

In form Opener, Tharanga tops the batting rankings in ODIs having scored 944 runs @ 48 Av- 84 SR  with 2 tons & 6 x 50+ and he is ranked as 3rd best SL Test batter as shown above with 2 Tons & 3 x 50+ during the same period (among all SL batters batted at No 1-5 spots).

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/...

Therefore the best available strongest Test batting lineup should be:

1) Dimuth K
2) U Tharanga
3) DM de Silva
4) Chandimal
5) Mathews
6) Asela G
7) Roshen S / K Mendis / Dickwella

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/....

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@MDKJulius Caesar you attempt to critique my answers is hilarious. You have numerous aliases on this site to post same thing over and over again. One would think you are either related to UT, are him or his agent something like that.

Fact that ANdrew has gone silent now your a firing with same names like pizza expert...hmm have you just blown a cover that you guys all the same or in same batch with same agenda. They should make people sign up here with real names and verifications.

This is your one of your numerous responses in the last few years...this one is #4 in this thread

@Statguru
Pl remember, No international side ever discarded, most experienced senior players in-form @ early thirties in age, to accommodate youngsters. This is a fact for any side world over. Before investing for the future, we should salvage the fast sinking present... to save cricket as a sport in SL for future...!

Your next comment: EVASIVE - inappropriate Answer!
Andrew had already proved the 2 scenarios and reason for axing were different. The point here is Tharang's axing was an unjustly cruel act not related to performance, behavior or injury and Deno's axing was for disciplinary reasons. Therefore it cannot be compared with UT's. Whether unjustly axing happened only to UT or not is an entirely different matter, never related to this blog discussion.
Are you a selector using false name to know all this? I'd put my house on it that Tharanga was dropped fro some of the reasons you said...how do I know...from ex selectors and managers. Those that know me personally off this site will know if i'm telling the truth which all that matters.
Btw your UT was lucky to play entire 2007 WC over which he cost SL dearly in certain stages!

Next point..

Q- Why do u completely twisted my words ?? when I said '`- up to 1992 incident, mighty Aussies had an immaculate Test record winning many series (including Ashes in 1989, 1991/92) without loosing any full series -- you interpreted it as - winning everything up to Deno's axing in 1992--- ? .... deliberate attempt to falsify & evade my point when unable to disprove !!
A- They were not mighty then...you tried to justify this as the difference between Jones and Thranga's non-selections citing Sri Lanka was struggling
Totally FALSE Answer never addressed the question .!!

As Andrew has pointed out in detail with the composition of the team members
In relative terms, Aussies were pretty strong team in 1992 despite Deno's axing. Unlike SL's Pathetic Test record in 2 year period after UT's axing.
Aussie series Record in next 2 years since Deno's axing in 1992:
Lost 2 Series - from 8 played (Vs Nz,WI, Eng, Pk, SA)= 25% series losses
SL series record in next 2 yrs since UT's axing after series win Vs Pk in 2014
(period without Upul in any full series squad):
Lost 5 series - from 8 played (vs Nz, WI, Ind, Pk,) = 62.5 % series losses .!
The obvious DIFFERENCE in SERIES RESULTS proves Andrew's point and how falls the evasive answer is,. This shows how desperately this delan guy had tried to deviate from precise point in the argument .

Now before I start let me re quote part of Andrews question and see if you can work out how yours comment is different...hen I said '`- up to 1992 incident, mighty Aussies had an immaculate Test record winning many series (including Ashes in 1989, 1991/92) without loosing any full series

Notice the words "UPTO" and you talk about after! Already going off on a tangent. ANd in your answer where is the listing for drawn series? And what was home and how many tests...very easy to skew and manipulate stats when you only give what you want people to read.

You have actually answer Andrew next question in the previous one but my comments above stand. Mighty is a huge exaggeration. Drawing a test series does not make you mighty!
Even ex Australian players, media would not call them mighty in that period. It was resurgence from the horror days in the 80s that slowly built up and became a formidable outfit later on. Thanks to Border as captain and Simpson as coach and investment in some young talent. Taylor took this a step further as captain. The rest is history. If you are satisfied with drawn series then you are satisfied with mediocrity.
Whilst Border won the Ashes back he never could beat the Windies. Taylor finally did that but he never won in India. Steve Waugh's team did that. That's when you can say you are mighty...able to go anywhere and win home or abroad.

Next point...for starters the team Andrew posted didn't even all play Test cricket in 1992...neither of you will answer when Hayden made his debut...since you like stats go get all the test records for those names listed by Andrew and see what their test records are in 1992...Tell me how many were GREAT at the time as claimed.

What also interesting to note is a number of those players were dropped in their test careers...and that too with better records than Tharanga on pitches that were not always flat batting tracks like modern times with bigger boundaries and smaller bats. What is your explanation for that?

To add to my comments that you two are mocking...ex cricketer Athula Sameerasekera had a post on facebook a couple of months ago listing the calibre and number of Sri Lankan players in Australia alone that has fled the SL domestic in last few years. It did its rounds on fb. Go find it then you can see who was around.
Malinga even made a comment recently about paying now for missing a generation of good cricketers from mismanagement.

Yes everyone knows selections in SL cricket have been a joke for sometime this is nothing knew...i have posted that numerous times since i first joined IC and even in Dilmah Forum before that and Coca cola one before that. SO too have others...have you been living under a rock or something?
Political influences and favouritism have dragged SL cricket down. but this does not mean I am referring to UT. There are plenty of players out there. Don't see you voicing for any of them.

Even when you look at test team batsmen for example...dimuth, chandimal, angelo are experienced ones. but you have likes of sadeera, mendis, asela, dhanajya, roshen, and number of others all trying to get spots. The talent is there. The execution is problem. Over coaching, poor domestic cricket structure and other factors. Surely you can see that.

The only thing harsh to UT maybe the stripping of the captaincy this early. Although he was uninspiring and kept risking getting banned and fined with inability to control over rates. I say that because part of that maybe liked to the decision to not tour pakistan.

As for the test side he only has himself to blame for mediocre performances and then electing to skip 6 months worth of tests but play domestic T20s around the world.

Oh and to add something about Angelo from previous posts...the reasons he was probably not dropped were probably because some of the the period he was struggling he was captain. Injuries were disruption. Personally would have liked to him to go get match fitness back first...but in the Test side with Dilshan, Mahela and Sangakarra all gone in short space of time he was most experienced batsmen left. And he had proven himself in the past as being a Test quality batsmen...as someone pointed out if it wasn't for brilliance of Sanga people would have noticed Angelo's contributions. All when fit he has other dimensions to his game like bowling and is alright in the field. Can't say the same for UT.

So Andrew in Canada and you supposedly in France and some others will keep regurgitating the same nonsense no doubt. It's the likes of you guys continually posting this crap for last 2 or so years that have put some people off UT and him hated like Mubarak. What you aimed to do has backfired. SO if you are his agent(s) if I was UT I would fire you arses!

Didn't hear anything about UT luck in last innings to be caught behind the wicket off a no-ball! Credit to him for making the most of the life. Hope he bats in same manner before he gets a life too.

Now are you or Andrew going to answer any questions?

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Hey Dilan,

why don't you understand any of your comments have no value at all in the context of this whole argument...????

Already, I have clearly pointed out quoting about 6 or 7 Questions asked by Andrew in his post & analyzing your evasively inappropriate, worthless answers to them, making no sense at all !

Have you come up with any real points to answer those EIGHT logical QUESTIONS asked by Andrew or COUNTER my analysis ??? Noooope.!

Instead of doing that, all you could do was just NITPICKING a few words in one question to twist the basic idea of the question clear to everyone, in the context of this blog discussion.

Why don't you understand, playing such a feeble WORD-GAME to avoid a question cannot cover your logical bareness in this matter.

Anyone who goes through this thread can clearly see that you are desperately attempting to seek Escape PIGEON-HOLES to hide, by playing useless WORD-GAMES here... always deliberately missing the undeniable points.!!!

Here is YOUR recent futile Attempt 1 - "Notice the words "UPTO" and you talk about after"

What difference it makes dude?

The main point here is pre & post Deno's era remains almost the same despite his axing in 1992 as seen in the list given below, in terms of losses & wins.! The only difference is in drawn series ( pre D-1 /post-D 3). But in Tharanga's case, his axing after the series win he brought in his 2nd series played after 7 yrs, SL lost Lost 5 series - from 8 played (vs Nz, WI, Ind, Pk,) = 62.5 % as i pointed out in previous post..!!

Trans-Tasman Trophy (NZ in Aus) 1989/90 drawn 0-0 (1)
Sri Lanka in Australia Test Series 1989/90 Australia 1-0 (2)
Pakistan in Australia Test Series 1989/90 Australia 1-0 (3)
Trans-Tasman Trophy (Aus in NZ) 1989/90 New Zealand 1-0 (1)
The Ashes (England in Australia) 1990/91 Australia 3-0 (5)
Frank Worrell Trophy (Ausin WI) 1990/91 West Indies 2-1 (5)
India in Australia Test Series 1991/92 Australia 4-0 (5)
Australia in Sri Lanka Test Series 1992 Australia 1-0 (3) <--- Deno's Axing
Frank Worrell Trophy (WI in Aus) 1992/93 WI 2-1 (5)
Trans-Tasman Trophy (Aus in NZ) 1992/93 drawn 1-1 (3)
The Ashes (Australia in England) 1993 Australia 4-1 (6)
Trans-Tasman Trophy (NZ in Aust) 1993/94 Australia 2-0 (3)
South Africa in Aus Test Series 1993/94 drawn 1-1 (3)
Aus in South Africa Test Series 1993/94 drawn 1-1 (3)
Australia in Pakistan Test Series 1994/95 Pakistan 1-0 (3)
The Ashes (England in Australia) 1994/95 Australia 3-1 (5)

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Here is YOUR recent futile Attempt 2 - continuing with your hilarious word game!
shamelessly nitpicking TRIVIAL words such as "Mighty" meant for pretty strong and 'Up to" - up to and after axing - Aus performances were not different as already proved above.! Obviously these trivial words has no significance at all within the context of the topic discussed.

Hey Delan, Did You EVER answered Andrew's question about TWISTED WORDS ? Nope !

Unlike the trivial words mention above this had lot of significance in the context of argument, since u have twisted it trying to falsify the statement by saying... " winning everything up to Deno's axing in 1992 is incorrect... " ( in your post @ #20)

Q- Why do u completely twisted my words ?? when I said '`- up to 1992 incident, mighty Aussies had an immaculate Test record winning many series you interpreted it as - winning everything up to Deno's axing in 1992--- ? .... deliberate attempt to falsify & evade my point when unable to disprove !!

A- They were not mighty then...you tried to justify this as the difference between Jones and Thranga's non-selections citing Sri Lanka was struggling

Totally FALSE Answer never addressed the question as proved yet again (above) .!!
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Andrew had responded to your topic unrelated frills, by asking?

- Who said Tharanga was the ONLY player to suffer unjustly axing? (obviously "Who" literary means here must be Andrew)

you couldn't give a proper answer and now you are coming up with an answer irreverent to the question by quoting a post by me responding to another guy, which reads as follows with an entirely different meaning:

" Pl remember, No international side ever discarded, most experienced senior players in-form @ early thirties in age, to accommodate youngsters."

The CLEAR POINT here is Deno (47 Av) was axed at 32 yrs, purely due to disciplinary reasons and NOT to accommodate youngsters over him. But previous series winning main batting contributor Upul was axed in Dec 2014 to include Dimuth K & K Silva in the squad. !

Logically speaking who would axe an in form experienced senior player @ 29 yrs to accommodate already flopped & dropped guys like Dimuth (or K silva) in 2014?

This is what you grossly misinterpreted trying to save your back.

No point going any further on this matter, with a logic defying sole like you. As Andrew said, it will only clone another fool here. LoL

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@MDKJulius Caesar penny doesn't drop for you quickly does it...nor the ones that like to hide behind anonymous names.

Of all those series you listed...how many a drawn compared to just losses.
After Jones was axed they won 3 out of 8 in your table.
ANd even in the truncated list before his axing which you have provided. Most of it against Asian teams at home. Plus the then minnows of SL away. First win in subcontinent for decades
The Ashes I have already mentioned. where is the home loss to windies 88/89
If you think that is mighty that that just shows everyone your mentality and thinking.

You should go look at all your posts on this site...you answer will look you in the mirror. Your history is one the site as is your aliases ones

Yes DImuth and Kuasual SIlva were given extended runs. For awhile they made starts but did not always convert maybe to get stability at top. Dimuth has improved and hopefully continues too. Silva has now been sacked and rightly so. Tharanga was no different in test cricket he was tried and failed. Tharanga Paranavitana also tried before that with mediocre results. Btw Silva averaged 40 in 2014 then went downhill

For the anonymous guy trying to point out Sadeera failed. Yes he has but less than a handful of tests is not really much of chance compared to the others for the young man both away series Pakistan have decent attack and India in India. I am not a selector but if my choice i would give him one more Test to prove himself if not send him back to go get runs.
Thiramane...we have said enough in the last few years. Should not be vice captain nor in Test side. Does not deserve it. ODIs slightly different form by him.

Some players can not play all formats. UT is useless in Tests as opener bar against weaker sides which is a shame. He may have turned corner now in his 30s but has to wait his turn till others discarded after self decision to skip tests. He was tried in lower order. But he is not best player with tail either. Some of those knocks for himself boosted a already mediocre record. He really needs to open or bat 3 at worse.

The great players can adjust to all formats but not everyone. And you shouldn't just pick someone for one format based on form in another unless they are your captain across all formats.

If he had other facets to his game you could get away with his record in Tests but he doesn't

At this stage UT is like a Bevan or Bailey or Nick Knight or those types...that were reasonably good in limited overs stuff but couldn't produce same when it mattered in Test cricket. He maybe able to change this...time will tell.
But the tentative push to get him to nick and get caught behind by keeper, slips or gully is probably well noted by test bowlers!

Where is responses to all the other stuff? Getting shorter and shorter or as they say clutching at straws now! hahaha

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@ delan82 - Some say this is a promotional campaign for UT, But anyhow the content in the blog article cannot be denied. Also it is a well known fact that Ut's career was dealt with a few cruel blows in many occasions by SLC. Latest is stripping his captaincy after 2 series.

You seems to be totally lost in the dark with no real points to counter attack. As anyone could see It is an impossible task trying to counter the impenetrable facts. The points are backed with solid statistical evidence. Since Andrew Silva & MDKJ had already dumped you with their concluding posts, try to be mentally satisfied with the useless post that you published above. That will ease off your mind and also end the long suffering and agony experienced in a badly lost cause .

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who want to know the worst ever test batsmen produced by SL history of cricket? Below you can see the stats who have played more than 20 Test matches for SL against team other than Zim and Ban.If you need to find where Upul is you need to look from the bottom.(LOL)

Overall figures
Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveD 100 50
KC Sangakkara 2000-2015 114 205 15 10023 287 52.75 29 44
DPMD Jayawardene1997-2014 128 225 10 10248 374 47.66 28 45
TT Samaraweera 2001-2013 67 115 16 4494 231 45.39 11 23
AD Mathews 2009-2017 67 117 14 4547 160 44.14 8 27
HP Tillakaratne 1989-2004 71 116 21 4046 204*42.58 9 19
PA de Silva 1984-2002 84 144 8 5706 267 41.95 18 21
LD Chandimal 2011-2017 37 69 3 2630 164 39.84 6 13
ST Jayasuriya 1991-2007 92 164 12 5865 340 38.58 11 27
AP Gurusinha 1985-1996 36 62 7 2027 143 36.85 6 4
TM Dilshan 2000-2013 70 123 9 4189 193 36.74 11 19
RL Dias 1982-1987 20 36 1 1285 109 36.71 3 8
A Ranatunga 1982-2000 86 143 10 4667 135*35.09 4 34
FDM Karunaratne 2012-2017 38 75 3 2426 196 33.69 5 11
MS Atapattu 1990-2007 75 135 11 4099 207*33.05 10 16
NT Paranavitana 2009-2012 32 60 5 1792 111 32.58 2 11
RS Mahanama 1986-1998 44 77 0 2505 225 32.53 4 11
LRD Mendis 1982-1988 24 43 1 1329 124 31.64 4 8
HAPW Jayawardene2006-2015 48 66 7 1794 154*30.40 3 4
RS Madugalle 1982-1988 21 38 4 1024 103 30.11 1 7
UC Hathurusingha1991-1999 26 44 1 1274 83 29.62 0 8
S Wettimuny 1982-1987 23 43 1 1221 190 29.07 2 6
JK Silva 2011-2017 33 63 0 1735 125 27.53 2 11
RP Arnold 1997-2004 37 59 2 1491 123 26.15 2 9
RS Kaluwitharana1992-2004 40 65 3 1611 132*25.98 3 7
WU Tharanga 2005-2017 23 43 1 984 92 23.42 0 5 6
HDRL Thirimanne 2011-2017 27 52 3 983 91 20.06 0 5 6

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sorry worst Test batsmen of SL history is Thirimanne, 2nd worst is Upul Tharanga. Upul is better than Thirimanne at least, so you have something to be proud of MDKJulis :P

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Headless loser Posted a Bogus Comment here.!

He had come up with some Distorted Stats to let down a player.

No any LINK to a reliable source/ Stat base quoted in his post (to conceal the shemales and stupid distortion act).

This guy is just trying to mislead others. When he cannot counter my points like a man, this covered does this like a headless donkey. LoL

Overall Career Rankings of SL TEST Batters in history - according to their batting Averages (minimum 20 Tests played).

Upul's actual Test record up to now is given below and he is the only SL Test player suffered with a 7 years long layoff in Test career.! Still UT is ranked above the guys like Dulip Mendis, Madugalla :HAP Jayawardane, Hathurusinghe, Kaushal Silva, Arnold, Kaluwitharana etc. Etc

WU Tharanga 2005-2017 31 58 3 1754 165 31.89 3 8

RANKINGS:

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/...

KC Sangakkara 2000-2015 134 232 17 12375 319 57.55 38 52
DPMD Jayawardene 1997-2014 149 252 15 11814 374 49.84 34 50
TT Samaraweera 2001-2013 80 129 18 5348 231 48.18 13 30
AD Mathews 2009-2017 72 126 17 4841 160 44.41 8 28
LD Chandimal 2011-2017 44 80 6 3283 164 44.36 10
PA de Silva 1984-2002 92 156 11 6324 267 43.61 20 22
HP Tillakaratne 1989-2004 83 131 25 4545 204* 42.87 11 20
TM Dilshan 1999-2013 86 143 11 5416 193 41.03 16 23
ST Jayasuriya 1991-2007 110 188 14 6973 340 40.07 14 31
AP Gurusinha 1985-1996 41 69 7 2435 143 39.27 7 8
MS Atapattu 1990-2007 89 154 14 5494 249 39.24 16 17 MG Vandort 2001-2008 20 33 2 1144 140 36.90 4 4
RL Dias 1982-1987 20 36 1 1285 109 36.71 3 8
A Ranatunga 1982-2000 93 152 12 5071 135* 36.22 4 38
FDM Karunaratne 2012-2017 47 92 3 3151 196 35.40 7 14
BKG Mendis 2015-2017 22 44 1 1441 194 33.51 3 4
NT Paranavitana 2009-2012 32 60 5 1792 111 32.58 2 11
WU Tharanga 2005-2017 31 58 3 1754 165 31.89 3 8
LRD Mendis 1982-1988 24 43 1 1329 124 31.64 4
RS Madugalle 1982-1988 21 38 4 1024 103 30.11
HAJayawardene 2002-2015 57 75 9 1974 154* 29.90 4 4
UC Hathurusingha 1991-1999 26 44 1 1274 83 29.62 0 8
JK Silva 2011-2017 37 70 0 2058 139 29.40 3 12
RS Mahanama 1986-1998 51 89 1 2576 225 29.27 4 11
RP Arnold 1997-2004 44 68 4 1815 123 28.35 3 10
RS Kaluwitharana 1992-2004 47 74 4 1863 132* 26.61 3 9
HDRL Thirimanne 2011-2017 29 56 6 1153 155* 23.06 1 5
WPUJC Vaas 1997-2009 22 18 0 304 65 16.88 0 1 2

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/...

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In SL test history, Only Upul Tharanga's Test Career was uniquely divided in to 2 phases with a SEVEN Years long in between layoff from 2007 t0 2014.(without playing a single test match)

Look at the 2 phases as Rookie in debut year & as an experienced international player since recalled in 2014:

Rookie phase of his career:

2005-2007 -15 Tests- 713 runs - 28.52 Av - 1 x100 - 3 x50

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/...

As an experienced international playersince recalled in 2014:

2014-2017 -16 Tests- 1041 runs - 34.70 Av - 2 x100 - 5 x50

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/...

His vast Improvement is clearly visible in the difference in batting averages, upped by seven notches.!

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Upul's divided short Test career span's 1/4 of tests (8/31) Vs Bd & Zmm. He is yet to play a single test Vs West Indies & Aus and had never played Vs Eng, Nz in more than a decade now. Therefore, dissecting his distinctly shattered overall career to remove 1/4 th to compare with the rest is just doctoring stats to put him down.

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LMFAO!

Except for you and your various fake aliases, everyone else can see what this is. UT's TEST stats are mediocre even if you take the numbers with ZIM & BAN. And vast improvement is increasing TEST average from 28 to 34 by playing against Zim?? (let's even forget about BAN as they are clearly a better side now).

That is not to say he has no talent or he hasn't suffered from a unjustifiable axing some years back but your pathetic effort to promote UT as a TEST player is doing no favors to UT and he himself has opted out of TESTS to better concentrate on ODIs and BPL.

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