[Discussion Thread] England in Sri Lanka 2014

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Dhanushka was the most

Dhanushka was the most promising opener despite kusal. It truely is a shame the selectors dropped him from A side.

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my opinion we shouldn't take

my opinion we shouldn't take kapu 's centuries seriously. coz those were against bangladesh club teams and we all know the qiality of bangladesh domestic cricket . there are many players who much more talented than him but still miss the place in national side. look at bhanuka rajapakshe,kithruwan,roshen silva they are far more talented than kapu. my pick is kithruwan. kapu really poor against quality fast bowling. kithruwan and bhanuka played well in newzealand and australia when they played u19 wc. so they have that lot more experience in such a conditions than kapu who hit few sixes against brett lee in one match.

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to be honest we are under

to be honest we are under utilize our talents. we had great oppurtunity when after u19 worldcup 2010 coz we saw how much talented our youngsters were . bhanuka,kithruwan,chathura pieris played well in australia and newzealand in 2010 at a such a young age. we ignored their talent .now we have a issue of middle order .if we gave them chances at that time we dont need to bother today. mark my word same thing can be happen to vishwa and binura. i am not agree the fact that we dont have players. actually we have players. but we are not managing them and their talent properly.

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Kapugedara Talented Player

@Hitman I agree with what you said that Priyanjan do not have the good technique but I thoroughly disagree with what you said here. Kapugedara is a highly talented player. Everyone have their opinions but to me Kapugedara is the most talented young player after Mathews and Kusal. Then why did selectors name him in the squad when he is at the age of 19. He is the youngest batsman came to International cricket for Sri Lanka in this century if I'm correct.

The problem that I see is he don't mature in the early years as like Mathews. Mathews willing to take the responsibility and pressure and win it for Sri Lanka. On the other hand Kapugedara also talented but cannot handle the pressure situations and come on top. This is what I like to see whether he now have the ability to be a good mature player who can handle pressure. It is worth a try and see.

Also hitman I agree Kithuruwan, Bhanuka and Roshen silva are talented but not as much as Kapu on his younger ages (Just to compare all at the same age). I agree Bangladesh bowlers are not good but this is exceptional performance by Kapu in the 1st 3 matches. Even Bhanuka and Roshen also playing where u said they are more talented than Kapu but their scores were very patchy. Specially look at Bhanuka first class and List A scores and recent scores do you think he deserved to be in the Sri Lankan side ???.

Rsohen Silva is a good technically correct batsman but don't have the power hitting that require in ODI's. But worth a look at both ODI and Test cricket after WC but not now. Kithuruwan Vithanage as u said deserved to be in the Sri Lankan side for the England tour. He is a technically correct batsman and also have the power hitting.

But as for now I feel best choice among these 4 players will be Kapugedara going for the WC. So we should look how he perform in the England series in the latter stages. I'm not saying we should give him a green right to go for the wc based on Ban performance. But definitely worth a look at.

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Talent and Form

Some players are going through a bad run of form even though they are talented. I will put Kusal Perera in to this category. Also Kapugedara in his early ages when given the chance in the national team. So it is worth giving these players more and more chance to peform. They will come good.

I agree I haven't seen lot about Roshen Silva so could not say much about him. But I have seen enough of Bhanuka to have an idea. Most people say that he is highly talented and should be in the Sri Lankna side. But definitely not for me at least for now. He also have serious weaknesses in the technique like Priyanjan and Chandimal. Don't think he will be success in Aussie conditions during the WC if given the opportunity. His first class, List A and recent scores and prove my points during these 3 years of his career. Apart from this he also does not posses the maturity level and will go for attacking shots all the time and giving his wicket away cheaply.

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Far too many young Sri Lankan

Far too many young Sri Lankan batsmen are always in the "promising" stage. They are always travelling and never arriving. Examples are Kapugedera, Chandimal, Kusal, Priyanjan, Rajapaksa.

To my mind it is not that they are without talent. I think they lack the mental strength and commitment to plan and execute a meaningful innings against top class bowling and fielding.It is one thing to score runs in the SLPL, it is another to do so consistently against International bowlers and fielders. Chandimal and Kapugedera in particular have given it away many times just when they were getting on top.On the other hand, Mathews plays the situation, starts carefully, and then puts on the pressure. Thirimanne too gets himself in before accelerating.All batsmen make mistakes. But, when the same mistake is repeated many times, something is seriously wrong.

The simple fact is that the batting cupboard is bare at this time.That is why the same players are given many chances. However, those players never seem to grab their chances. One innings wonders are just that. We need consistency.I feel that too many young batsmen have fallen for the trope about the Sri Lankan brand of "aggressive" cricket. What exactly does that term mean? Does it mean trying to hit every ball out of the park? Or that a blazing 25 runs is OK when a more sedate 50 runs is needed? "Nava gilunath band tune" does not win matches in International cricket except now and then.We need thinking batsmen, not "come or go Chicago" types.

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So much 'talent' but so little runs

To add a comment @Siri point above about so much talent but nothing seems to come of it. I reckon its a direct result of the poor first class cricket standard and strucutre. With so many teams the standards are diluted and the wickets they play on are one diemensional leading to apparent talent that is sub-standard. One could question, didnt this same first class system produce the current #1 batsman in the world and Mathews who is up there. That's a fair poiint I guess but I still beleive the standard is poor resulting in sub-standard players on "average". There will obviously be exceptions to everthing (Sanga, Mathews or even Sakinb Ul Hassan from Bangladesh) but on average, it will produce sub-standard cricketers.

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Kaushal or Kithruwan

Kaushal Silva has opened with Kusal in the first warm-up match today. Definitely it should have been Kithruwan with Kusal to open. Unbelievably, Kithruwan is not among playing XI today.

Silva is useless in ODIs. Problem with Silva is that he has used to leave many deliveries at the beginning of the inning. It is OK in tests, but batsmen can’t do it regularly in ODIs. However, with the ODI mindset, Silva has put his bat to deliveries early today, but poor fellow has nicked and got out for 2 runs.

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KAPUGEDARA VS BHANUKA ?

@Hitman : Everyone must understand different people have different views about selection procedures. But it is difficult to represent everyone's opinions by the selection committee when choosing players to represent national team.

But this is definitely a worth a opportunity and see by giving Kapugedara a yet another chance and see how he performs in the national team. If we have suitable middle order players who have establish then we don't want give him a chance. But ATM where Chandimal and Priyanjan haven't secured their places. Even Chandimal has dismissed for 0 in the practice match today. Even Thirimanne also not 100% establish himself. It is important to have more bench strength too when going for the wc.

Agree what you said we don't need to compare too much playing in Bangladesh club levels. But having said that there are International players in those teams in Bangladesh. But this not only apply to Kapugedara it also apply to Bhanuka as well.

Compared with Bhanuka, Kapugedara is MILES ahead in the same tournament + he have the International experience as well in going for a Major tournament like WC. So how could you think we have to give Bhanuka a chance instead of Kapugedara is really questionable to ask ????

Just to note these are the recent scores of Kapugedara and Bhanuka in the same Dhaka Premier tournament currently

CHAMARA KAPUGEDARA

161*(136) + 10-0-41-4
106(106) + 1-0-11-0
85(106) + 10-0-38-1
11*(12) + 6-0-22-0

Total runs 363 runs

Batting Average 181.5 @ S.R of 100.8

Bowling Average 22.4 @ R.P.O 4.14

BHANUKA RAJAPAKSE

29(32) + 2-0-6-0
19*(31)
12(36)
1(14)

Total runs 61 runs

Batting Average 20.33 @ S.R of 53.98%

So how could you give Bhanuka the green light ahead of Kapugedara for the national squad ??????.

This is the reason some people just trying to say and think what others are telling. Bhanuka is not a talented cricketer for me. Players like Kusal, Kapugedara and Kithuruwan are far ahead of Bhanuka. It is not only in this tournament that Bhanuka scores are low if you look his statistics over the past 3 years you can clearly say it is not warrant a place in the national team although he might have one shinning innings in between many of his innings.

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Proposed squad for the first 3 ODIs

Management of players is very important in this series. However, my proposed squad for the first 3 ODIs, targeting to go with available full strength for the first 3 ODIs and win all of them. (Considering Malinga and Senanayeke is not available for this series).
01) Mahela
02) Dilshan
03) Thirimanne
04) Sangakkara
05) Mathews
06) Priyanjan
07) Jeevan
08) Thisara
09) Herath
10) Lakmal
11) Eranga
Rest of the squad: Chandimal, Kithruwan, Gamage, Ajantha

(Last edited by R Peterson on November 22, 2014 - 03:51)

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